Jokic Being the MVP is a Joke

Nikola Jokic won his third MVP last night. I knew it was going to happen. The moment Joel Embiid got hurt, it was a foregone conclusion that he was winning the award. No one was going to catch him. Guys could have gone off, the media wanted to give Jokic this award.

When I heard the news, my son told me while we were at karate, I scoffed. I was annoyed. I know I shouldn't let this bother me, but it does. After we returned home, I saw some stories flying around about how this puts Jokic on another level. The only other people who have won at least three MVP's in the NBA are Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, LeBron James and Michael Jordan. Jokic is now going to be mentioned with these other guys, and that seems wrong to me. These other guys are hall of fame caliber players. These other guys are transcendent talents. Jordan is the greatest to ever step on the court. Magic is Magic. He is, quite possibly, the greatest point guard of all time. Moses Malone is the greatest rebounder to ever play the game. He is also the first prep to pro player. Larry Bird was a certified killer. He wanted to rip your heart out. Bill Russell has 11 championship rings and is the best defensive player ever. Kareem is one of the greatest to ever do it. He was also the dominant big man for the Lakers when they started their whole dynasty. And LeBron James is the second greatest to ever do it. He is a point guard in a linebacker's body. He is the icon of the 2000's. He is still producing at an incredibly high rate at 38 years old. He has changed the game forever.

And now we have Jokic. What has he truly done to be on these guys' level? Honestly. I get the whole analytic stuff and the stat counting. That is all well and good. But damn if he is not anywhere near these other guys. He is not even close. And he doesn't even have a personality. When he made a mention that he "doesn't even pay attention to this stuff", that rubbed me the wrong way. He wants to be this aloof guy that doesn't care about what he does as a profession. He cares more about his horses and his bully brothers. If he hates this sport that much, if he doesn't want to continue to do this, why does he do it then? No one is forcing him. I don't find his crummy attitude charming. He annoys the hell out of me. And he is mind numbingly boring to watch play basketball. I don't care what all the white nerdy writers at ESPN and The Ringer have to say about his game, he is dull. I don't think his passing is otherworldly. He is not the rebounder he should be. He is a total zero on defense. And he brings nothing exciting to the game of basketball. Just because nerdy analytic guys like him, that doesn't mean he is the MVP.

Once again there is no possible way he should be mentioned with the other players that won at least three MVP awards. Oh, and he now has more MVP awards than current players like Giannis Antentekoumpo, Joel Embiid, Shai Gilgeous Alexander, Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brunson, Jayson Tatum, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler, among many others. He also has more MVP's than former players like Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, David Robinson, Clyde Drexler, Allen Iverson, Hakeem Olajuwon and Kevin Garnett. That is insanity to me. He is not on any of those guys' level either. I'd so much rather have Olajuwon as my center. Give me Shaq all day. David Robinson is a better offensive player than Jokic, and a far, far, far better defender. It doesn't make sense to me.

I feel like when my son, who is 12, is going to look back at this when he is my age and be grossed out that analytics took over the game for a time being. None of the voters seem to care about playing both ends of the floor, about love of the game or about importance to a team. This was a throw away award the moment they added the 65 game limit and Embiid got hurt.

The MVP award is now officially a joke. Jokic being a three time winner is even funnier and kind of sad to me. But hey, at least the analytic nerds can go around and tell people how smart they are now that he has won this award 3 times in 4 years. This makes the NBA MVP award as important as the Grammys. What a joke. 

Ty

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Zach Lowe Needs to Watch More than Two NBA Players

I'm a fan of Zach Lowe. I think he is one of, if not the smartest writer of the NBA that is doing that job right now. He does his research, watches a ton of games and is knowledgeable on not just the game, but the players too. His podcast is the only primarily basketball podcast I listen to. I do listen to "The Flagrant Ones" as well, but they do way more jokes than "The Lowe Post" does. Zach Lowe's podcast is for basketball junkies, NBA junkies, such as myself.

I have found myself getting annoyed lately when I listen to him talk. He is still as informative and knowledgeable as ever, but he is constantly pumping up two players that I am not a fan of, Luka Doncic and Nikola Jokic. Now, before the internet weirdos come at me, I can acknowledge their ability, they are very good NBA offensive players and Jokic is a deserving champ and two time MVP. But, to hear Lowe talk about them lately, it is almost as if they never make mistakes and they are the only two NBA players worth mentioning and/or praising.

It has gotten so bad for me that I have found myself timing how long it takes before he mentions one or both players in any new episode. I watch some people on Instagram do the same thing, as a joke. But I want to see how long he can hold himself before he simply must bring them up. Even on episodes where he is not necessarily talking about the Mavericks or Nuggets, Lowe will find a way to shoehorn the two of them into a conversation. The longest it has taken before he has brought up one of the two guys in a recent episode was 23 minutes. This was an episode that was well over 90 minutes long. He only lasted less than a third of the run time before he had to let everyone listening know that he is a fan of these guys.

I get it. You like the way they play the game. You cannot find any criticism to give them. You want nothing but the best for them. You married a Croatian so you must feel some weird obligation to like European NBA players. These are your two favorite teams, and clearly your two favorite players. But, you are a journalist and analyst as well. That is supposed to be a non biased job. From what I was told at a young age when I was thinking journalism might be a good route for me, I wouldn’t have lasted too long because of my love for Michigan football. My folks let it be known that, if I were to pursue a career in journalism, that love could stay, but never be talked about openly amongst readers of whatever publication I may have ended up writing for, and that was a nonstarter for me. But the landscape has changed with major journalism it seems. You can be a fan and openly talk about that fandom. You can be a fanboy, a fanatic, a super fan and most people will just look the other way. Zach Lowe has taken this angle and run miles and miles and miles with it. I was listening to his most recent episode and David Thorpe brought up Shai Gilgeous Alexander as an MVP candidate, the top candidate in his eyes. This was after Lowe went on a rant about "Luka's last season push for MVP". Also, I despise that he calls this dude by his first name only. I can guarantee that Luka Doncic doesn't ever think twice about you Zach. So, after he went on his rant, Thorpe said why he thinks SGA is the frontrunner for MVP, Lowe's silence spoke volumes. Someone wasn't giving one of his guys the full on credit he thought he deserved. So instead of going into a nice debate, because Thorpe threw stats at Lowe, one of his favorite things to bring up when talking about Doncic or Jokic, he just sat there quietly with nothing to say. That stuck with me.

And lately, when speaking of Jokic, he will constantly say how he is the "greatest basketball player in the world" in one breath, then begrudge Giannis Antentekoumpo. I guess Zach Lowe may need to be reminded of some more stats. They both have two MVP's. They both have the same amount of titles, one. And Giannis is much, much, much better defender than Nikola could ever dream of being in his entire career. Oh, and the Greek Freak is a much more fun player to watch play the game for me. And why doesn't Lowe like the Harden/Doncic comparison I wonder. They are pretty much the same player. They are both volume shooters. They both get assists. They both stop the ball. They both need the ball to be effective. I don't get why he can't just accept the fact that they are basically the same player. Oh, and one more thing on Luka Doncic. Lowe is so quick to talk about Doncic's greatness in the playoffs. And again, he is a very, very good playoff basketball player. But at the same time he will go in hard on the two guys picked before him in the draft, Deandre Ayton and Trae Young. Make no mistake, Luka Doncic is a more skilled player than both of those guys, but he has gone just as far as Trae Young has in the playoffs. They have both been as far as the conference finals. As for Ayton, well, he has been to the NBA Finals, and played pretty well. So, I guess that means Ayton's playoff success is technically better, right? 

The way Lowe speaks of these two guys is almost erotic and kind of gross. He will never begrudge them, but he is quick to point out flaws of other superstars. He will give them all the glory for team success, but blame other players for holding teams back. He has become what I feared he might be, and that is a knock off Bill Simmons, who is one of the most loathsome journalists on the planet. I hope he fixes this fascination with these two guys, but it doesn't seem likely. I wonder how they would react if they knew about his love for them. I'd have to guess they don't know and most likely don't care. But I would be creeped the hell out if someone I had little to no interaction with talked about me the way Lowe talks about these two guys. It feels odd. 

Ty

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I'm Coming Around on Nikola Jokic

I'm here to eat crow today. I am not a Nikola Jokic fan. I find his brand of basketball slow, plodding and boring. He pokes and prods and moves like he is a lumberjack. I fully believe he only deserved one of his MVP awards. I still fully believe Joel Embiid should be a two time MVP. I like a bunch of other players much more than Nikola Jokic. I find the love from the media, mainly ESPN, to be very racially biased towards Jokic. But dammit, that dude has been an absolute killer during this Nuggets playoff run. Let’s discuss.

I am a Lakers hater. I have never, ever liked them. I do not root for any big market team. But, I found it hard to root for the Nuggets going into this series due to my distaste for Jokic. That feeling went away quickly. Watching Jokic and Jamal Murray and Kentavious Caldwell Pope rip the heart out of the Lakers, it was soon very easy for me to root for Denver in the West Finals. I also found it quite easy to root for Jokic. In fact, when the Suns owner decided to do that unnecessary flop was when I kind of started to flip to Jokic's side.

This dude should not be as good as he is at basketball. He is big, but that is about it. He looks out of shape when you compare him to other guys who play his same position. His jumper is wonky. He is a solid passer, but not at Draymond Green's level for a front court guy. He doesn't look the part, but he has found a way to make it work. He makes the right passes. He shoots when he needs to. He doesn't give up stupid fouls anymore. He doesn't gripe as much as other guys, Luka Doncic I'm talking about you here. He just plays the game and everyone around him seems to love playing basketball with him. Jamal Murray is as good a shooter as there is in the league, and he is usually pretty wide open due to defenses sucking in on Jokic. He is also the perfect pick and roll guy with Jokic. Aaron Gordon fits like a glove with this squad and he brings that defensive intensity they were missing. KCP is a proven vet and winner. He is a knock down shooter and he plays very good defense. Bruce Brown has proven to be an exceptional low salary signing. Michael Porter Jr is actually playing defense and hustling even with his shot not falling. But all of this doesn't work if these guys do not like playing with the face of the team, Nikola Jokic. They all want to win, they have all bought in, Michael Malone has done a phenomenal job getting everyone, including his star player. to totally buy into their respective roles.

I am endlessly fascinated at how quickly I have turned out to not hate this team, and Jokic, as much as I did only one short year ago. He made some amazing shots last night to close out that series. He was the best player on the floor for all four games. This is a floor that included guys like Anthony Davis, Jamal Murray and LeBron James. James had an incredible game last night, but Jokic was better overall. Murray had a great game two, but Jokic did it all series and all playoffs for that matter. AD had 40 in game one, Jokic nearly matched him, and the Nuggets got the win. Aaron Gordon is allowed to rove on offense and throw down oops. Jokic threw a pass last night that looked like it was to no one, and here comes Gordon to throw it down. Even the Lakers looked shocked. But Jokic and Gordon knew what they were doing. It was pretty astounding.

I will most likely be rooting for the Heat in the Finals, if they eventually close out the Celtics. But if the Celtics make some wild comeback and win the East Finals, it won't be so hard for me to root for Jokic and the Nuggets yet again. It shouldn't work. Jokic should not be this dominant. But here we are. And the Nuggets are a fun team to watch. I will not wear their gear or even root for them next season. But I found it easy in the West Finals, and if the Celtics somehow do the impossible, it would be even easier for me to root for this Nuggets team. I'm sorry for bashing this team and this player so much. I was wrong. 

Ty

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Embiid is Way More Valuable Than Jokic

Last week I wrote about the NBA MVP award. It was not given out yet. I broke down how the same writers who criticized Russell Westbrook's MVP season were the very same ones that would almost assuredly vote for Nikola Jokic. Welp, it was announced yesterday that Jokic had indeed won his second straight MVP.

I was surprised, but I guess I shouldn't have been. I laid it all out for all of you anyway. I knew that these writers were licking their chops at the chance to crown another white superhero. If it couldn't be Jokic, you better damn well believe that would have wanted it to be Luka. But they got their wish. The voters voted, they were counted and Jokic narrowly beat out Embiid. All of the talking heads on ESPN said they were fine with it. Most of those people were white or old. Most of the writers on Bleacher Report were talking about how great it was that they went with analytics. That the game is changing for the good. Most of the analysts on NBA TV, mostly white, were happy with the outcome.

Jokic has now won two straight MVP's. There are only a few players in the history of the game that have done that. The only current players that have done it are Steph, LeBron, Giannis and now Jokic. To write his name in the same sentence with those guys has me utterly baffled. Jokic is a very good player. He can shoot, is a very good passer and is pretty lethal in the low post. But is he Steph? No way. Steph revolutionized the game. He has done things that no one has ever done in the history of the NBA. Giannis is a modern day Shaq who can shoot. He is un guard-able. When he has a head of steam, get out of the way. And, even though he didn't need to prove anything to anyone, he put up 50 points in a closeout game in the finals. He is currently the best player in the NBA. And then we have LeBron. I mean, it is LeBron. He is the second greatest player to ever step on an NBA floor. He is a giant among men. As for some other names that have won back to back MVPs we have Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem, Moses Malone, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Steve Nash and Tim Duncan. And now Nikola Jokic. Looking at that list, and having to now add Jokic is jarring. He is not on the same level as any of those guys. Russell and Wilt are Mount Rushmore guys. Jordan is the GOAT. Larry and Magic are freaking Larry and Magic. Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time. I mean, even Steve Nash is more important than Jokic could ever dream of being. But now he is on this list. That is messed up.

This is purely analytical driven. The NBA voters, for the most part, are a bunch of dorks that only care about pointless stats. They will talk about VORPS and second hand assists and any other nonsense that makes basketball as boring as baseball. I do not watch basketball for the analytics. I go by the eye test. I watch and decide who I think is the MVP.

With my eye I can see Joel Embiid is a much, much, much more palatable player to watch. He is infinitely more fun. He is a far superior defender. He is a better offensive player. The only thing Jokic has over him is passing ability. And Embiid is a serviceable passer. People will point out the teammates and all of that other stuff, but do not act like Embiid didn’t have some shit to deal with this season. Ben Simmons was a selfish little baby all year. Embiid kept them afloat. Embiid missed two playoff games and the 76ers looked lost. He comes back and they win the next two games. It is wildly clear to me that Embiid is far more deserving of MVP.

This is going to be looked back upon as a miss. This is Nash over Kobe. This is Russ over Harden. This is Malone over Jordan or Barkley over Jordan. This is BS. This is white voters finding a white savior and trying to ride him for all he is worth. So when Bill Simmons and Zach Lowe and all these other writers that hemmed and hawed about being a "basketball pervert" when they voted for Russ over Harden, just remember that you all voted Jokic over Embiid, and that is a far worse fate in my opinion. Embiid is the MVP. I will debate anyone on that. Bring it.

Ty

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The White Problem in NBA Journalism

NBA award season is upon us. They have already given out Defensive Player of the Year, Marcus Smart, and more are to come. I have my choices for who I want to win, and who I think should win. And I have been very vocal about my want for Joel Embiid to win the MVP. He led the league in scoring, kept the 76ers afloat with Ben Simmons being a selfish child, kept doing his thing after the trade for James Harden and has been a defensive force all season long. He has also been a killer in the first two games of round one of the playoffs. He should be the clear favorite.

But he is not.

The NBA nerds and journalists and podcasters and bloggers all want their new hero Nikola Jokic to win the award for a second straight season. They have sung his praises up and down the floor. I was listening to "The Lowe Post" earlier today and Zach Lowe made every single excuse he could for Jokic playing poorly in the playoffs right now. So have all the other white NBA nerds on the internet. They have pointed out his VORP, his plus minus, his shot chart, his passes that lead to assists, and how he has become a "serviceable" defender. Again, nerd shit. What they are failing to point out, well it is actually a few things, is that Jokic is a dirty hotheaded player, and the exact same journalists and podcasters and bloggers and talking heads all slammed Russell Westbrook when he was the MVP favorite the year he averaged a triple double and won it.

I want to touch on the hotheadedness and dirtiness first. We have seen him implode in the playoffs so far. The Warriors, namely Draymond Green, are so inside his head. It is affecting his play. It is affecting his team. And instead of being a leader and showing MVP leadership, he got himself ejected and tried to chase Gary Payton Jr when he tapped him on the backside on his way off the floor. But he did stuff like this all year. He gets away with trips and elbows and griping all the time because the nerds love him. He injured Markieff Morris. He shoved him when his back was turned. He cheap shot him. Some, again the white journalists, have made excuses for Jokic. But what he did was childish and shows how easy it is to get under his skin. He is the classic "can dish it out but cannot take it". He thinks it is funny when he pulls his nonsense, but when someone fights back, he gets angry and dirty. Morris missed a ton of time, but people just let it go. They talked about it for a day and then it was gone, forgotten. That's nuts.

What irks me the most, why I wanted to write this piece, is the Russ comparison. When Russ won the MVP the Thunder went 47-35 and were the 6 seed in the West. Some of Russ' teammates, this was the season KD left for Golden State, included a very young and inexperienced Steven Adams, an oft injured Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis as a rookie, Alex Abrines, Norris Cole, Taj Gibson, Kyle Singler and Cam Payne, to name a few. The names may pop off, but this was before Adams was the dude he is now, before Sabonis was an all star, Oladipo didn't fit, Norris Cole was on his last leg, this was a team that Russ had to carry. He did all the things he did because his coach told him to. He had to carry the load. If he didn't, that team would have been a lottery team. And after he did his thing, and rightfully won the MVP, he had the Thunder playing tough, but the Rockets were a much better team that ousted them in five games. But people called Russ "selfish", a "stat hog", a "rebound seeker". They said people that voted for him were "basketball perverts", that we "didn't understand the game". They bad-mouthed fans that rooted for him and wanted him to win the MVP. We were all wrong and the white journalists and nerds were supposedly right.

Well, let's look at Mr Jokic this year. His teammates include Aaron Gordon, Bones Hyland, Jeff Green, Will Barton, Bryn Forbes, Boogie Cousins and Monte Morris. It is true that Michael Porter Jr and Jamal Murray have missed significant time. But the same nerds that love Jokic like guys like Hyland and Morris. I hear all the time that Will Barton can heat up at any moment. I see how athletic and versatile Gordon is when I watch him play. The teammates are similar, but I honestly think, even with the injuries, that this Nuggets team has more talent surrounding their star than that Thunder team did. And when you look at the record, the Nuggets are 48-34. That is one game better than the 16-17 Thunder. They are also the 6 seed. They are also being demolished right now by the Warriors. The parallels are insanely familiar, but no one is calling the nerds and journalists "perverts", saying they are "dumb" and "stupid". They find excuses for Jokic where they found flaws with Russ.

It is maddening that, in 2022, the NBA still has ignorant racists voting on these awards. It has never been more blatant than that this season. Joel Embiid should win this award. It should not even be a conversation. But when they announce Jokic as the winner, I am almost certain they will, the journalists and nerds, all of them white, will rejoice and still be quietly racist. It is frustrating. I feel for Joel Embiid. He is so much more deserving of this award. He is the clear MVP. But it is not up to him or me. Unfortunately it is up to the white journalists, a lot of which live in Boston. And that stinks.

Ty

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Is Nikola Jokic the Right MVP?

Nikola Jokic won the NBA MVP last night in a runaway.

At first I was kind of stunned at how big his margin of victory turned out to be. I think Jokic is great, and deserving, but to win by as much as he did, that was wild. I have gone to bat for Joel Embiid all season. He was my pick. I think he is most valuable to the 76ers, and when he plays, he’s nearly unstoppable. He is a modern Hakeem. We also had Steph Curry. He had a wonderful year. He is the greatest shooter I’ve ever seen. He had no help at all this year and he still won the scoring title. He’s more than proven he’s one of the top five players in the league. Before LeBron got hurt he had a real chance to win. The Lakers were coasting, it coasting with a healthy LeBron meant they were near the top of the West. He also looked to be locked in defensively, and when he does that, it’s over. There’s also Chris Paul. He has shown his worth the last two seasons. He went to OKC last year and had them as a five seed in the West with a totally unproven roster. Then he goes to Phoenix this year, to a team that hadn’t been in the playoffs in forever, and turned them into a two seed that cruised over the Lakers in round one. He even got hurt but went out and played as well as he always does. There were other players that popped up here and there, guys like KD, Harden, Jayson Tatum, but the guys I mentioned were the main dudes in the running all season for MVP.

So after it was announced that Jokic won, I kind of thought back on the season and tried to figure out why he won. Chris Paul is great, but that team has Devin Booker and Deandre Ayton. They were also looked at as a team that was going to make a leap this year. Paul wasn’t so much the MVP for them as he was the veteran they needed to make the jump. LeBron simply missed too much time and limped to a poor finish for him. He is an amazing player, second greatest ever, but he hurt his ankle and that was it for his chances at a fifth MVP. Curry was incredible, did amazing things, scored like hell, but the Warriors didn’t even make the playoffs. I remember when Russ won his lone MVP, his first year averaging a triple double, and people questioned him winning because OKC was a five seed I believe. Again, the Warriors didn’t even make the playoffs. What Steph did this season was so much fun to watch, but I think the MVP should be on a team that gets into the playoffs at the very least. As for Embiid, and I still would’ve given him way more votes, he missed too much time due to injuries. And when he was out the 76ers kept on winning. They definitely missed him, but this Philadelphia team is constructed to deal with injuries to their stars. It might have been different if they needed Embiid to secure the one seed, but they did that when Embiid was nursing his knee. He had a tremendous season, and this seems to be just the start of a dominate career. But the MVP was not for him this year.

I then I looked at Jokic, and it kind of made sense. He didn’t miss any significant time. He was tremendous running the Nuggets offense. He played better defensively. He is the lynchpin of their offense. Everything runs through him. When they acquired Aaron Gordon, Gordon adjusted his game to fit with Jokic. Murray tore his ACL, and when I thought that would push them off a cliff, Jokic was the calming force that led the Nuggets to the three seed. Also, they’re currently in the second round of the playoffs. Jokic is a much deserving MVP. I love that he’s the latest pick, 41st in his draft, to win. He’s also the first center since Shaq to win the MVP. Shaq won it in 2000 by the way.

I don’t know how the Nuggets will fare in the rest of the playoffs, but after sitting on the news yesterday, Jokic deserved this award. He earned it. So congrats. Enjoy this MVP and let’s see if you guys don’t get smoked by Phoenix.(I think they will though)

Ty

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